{"id":43,"date":"2014-09-06T08:19:20","date_gmt":"2014-09-06T06:19:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=43"},"modified":"2015-08-15T19:41:29","modified_gmt":"2015-08-15T17:41:29","slug":"article-06-09-2014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=43","title":{"rendered":"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>J&rsquo;ai choisi de r\u00e9aliser les manches \u00e0 plats: c&rsquo;est a dire sans doublure flottante. je trouve que cela \u00e9vite d&rsquo;avoir des manches qui vrillent ou qui tirent lors du montage ensuite. J&rsquo;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 trait\u00e9 ce sujet ici :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=133\" target=\"_blank\">partie 10: r\u00e9alisation des manches<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-text\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=130\" target=\"_blank\">partie 13:le montage des manches sur le corsage:<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>je vous disais dans mon pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent article que sur ce patron il manque des indications sur certains \u00e9l\u00e9ments qui composent ce patron.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ici j&rsquo;ai de nouveau ce probl\u00e8me: en effet rien n&rsquo;est indiqu\u00e9 sur la fa\u00e7on dont l&rsquo;amplitude des manches sur les \u00e9paules est r\u00e9duite. il y a t-il des fronces ou des plis? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai choisi de proc\u00e9der comme toute les robe de cette \u00e9poque avec des plis couch\u00e9s. Oui parce que cela limite l&rsquo;\u00e9paisseur qu&rsquo;offre les fronces. C&rsquo;est donc plus facile \u00e0 coudre ensuite.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Seulement voil\u00e0 vu que rien n&rsquo;est indiqu\u00e9 sur le patron et que j&rsquo;ai modifi\u00e9 l\u2019emmanchure, le chemin f\u00fbt rude et long. J&rsquo;ai commenc\u00e9 la r\u00e9alisation des manche \u00e0 15h00 pour finir la base \u00e0 20h00. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Je ne peux pas vous proposer une m\u00e9thode simple pour monter les manches. C&rsquo;est toujours un parcours difficile mais voici quelques pistes:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Sur ce type de manches on ne doit pas observer de plis dans le dos lorsque l&rsquo;on est au repos c&rsquo;est signe que l&rsquo;amplitude est trop grande.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>On ne doit avoir l&rsquo;impression que cela tire lorsque l&rsquo;on tend les bras vers l&rsquo;avant c&rsquo;est signe que l&rsquo;amplitude du dos est trop \u00e9troite.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>On ne demande pas a ce genre de robe de pouvoir \u00eatre \u00e0 l&rsquo;aise lorsque l&rsquo;on tend les bras vers le ciel (elles ne sont pas con\u00e7ues pour cela, les mouvement restaient limit\u00e9s \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque et c&rsquo;\u00e9tait encore bien pire le si\u00e8cle juste avant). <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Comme vous pouvez le constatez sur les photos j&rsquo;ai donc r\u00e9alis\u00e9 3 plis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Voici comment j&rsquo;ai proc\u00e9d\u00e9: j&rsquo;ai fait des simulations: c&rsquo;est a dire que j&rsquo;ai \u00e9pingl\u00e9 mes manches sur les emmanchures pour r\u00e9gler les pinces et l&rsquo;amplitude du dos. Mais je ne les ai pas cousu ensuite sur le manteau.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Non parce que si on monte les manches de suite: c&rsquo;est tr\u00e8s compliqu\u00e9 de placer les engageante , les dessus de volants, les d\u00e9corations.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Et puis cela ajoute du poids sur le manteau et donc de la difficult\u00e9 pour travailler dessus ensuite.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>J&rsquo;attend donc d&rsquo;avoir tout fini et je monte celles ci en dernier sur le manteau. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_c4d57b_img-3678.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_c4d57b_img-3678.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_d3bf16_img-3675.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_d3bf16_img-3675.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_71cffa_img-3677.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_71cffa_img-3677.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 ensuite les dessus d&rsquo;engageantes, j&rsquo;ai proc\u00e9d\u00e9 de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re que pour la pi\u00e8ce d&rsquo;estomac. J&rsquo;ai fronc\u00e9 \u00e0 1 cm du bord et je les ai mont\u00e9 sur les bords de mes manches. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_184415_img-3683.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_184415_img-3683.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_93edcd_img-3679.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_93edcd_img-3679.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Pour les engageantes: j&rsquo;ai choisi une m\u00e9thode assez classique, bas\u00e9 sur ce model ci de 1770 :<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_1356ff_1998-270-2ab.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_1356ff_1998-270-2ab.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_2b3d3e_1985-140-4a.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_2b3d3e_1985-140-4a.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 3 patrons de 3 tailles diff\u00e9rentes (longueur 1m10)<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_fdee99_img-3681.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_fdee99_img-3681.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>puis j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9coup\u00e9 mes pi\u00e8ces dans ma dentelle. j&rsquo;ai fronc\u00e9 individuellement chaque rang et je les ai ensuite superpos\u00e9 du plus grand au plus petit! <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_bceed7_img-3680.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_bceed7_img-3680.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai choisi ensuite de les fixer sur le bord des manches pour des raisons de praticit\u00e9. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_d0ba05_img-3684.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/ob_d0ba05_img-3684.jpg\" alt=\"projet robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise : les manches\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>J&rsquo;ai choisi de r\u00e9aliser les manches \u00e0 plats: c&rsquo;est a dire sans doublure flottante. je trouve que cela \u00e9vite d&rsquo;avoir des manches qui vrillent ou qui tirent lors du montage ensuite. J&rsquo;ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 trait\u00e9 ce sujet ici : partie 10: r\u00e9alisation des manches partie 13:le montage des manches sur le corsage: je vous disais dans [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[17,8,13],"tags":[32,33,56],"class_list":["post-43","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-costumes-historiques","category-les-tutos","category-making-off","tag-32","tag-paniers","tag-techniques"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=43"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1399,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43\/revisions\/1399"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=43"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=43"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=43"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}