{"id":51,"date":"2014-08-08T07:19:41","date_gmt":"2014-08-08T05:19:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=51"},"modified":"2015-08-15T19:50:29","modified_gmt":"2015-08-15T17:50:29","slug":"article-08-08-2014","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=51","title":{"rendered":"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Alors pour jupon plusieurs options s&rsquo;offrent \u00e0 nous! vous pouvez d\u00e9j\u00e0 ne retrouver deux sur mon blog :<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=141\" target=\"_blank\">La jupe :<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>et<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; color: #888888; font-size: 12pt;\"><em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=245\" target=\"_blank\">Tutorial chemise \u00e0 la reine partie5:r\u00e9aliser un jupon XVIIIeme<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; color: #888888; font-size: 12pt;\"><em><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/?p=244\" target=\"_blank\">Tutorial chemise \u00e0 la reine partie6:r\u00e9aliser un jupon(jupe) XVIIIeme (2eme)<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>sur mon patron il est propos\u00e9 une variante de la deuxi\u00e8me solution: un grand r\u00e9ctangle fronc\u00e9 par un syst\u00e8me de cordon ! c&rsquo;est vrai \u00e0 plat comme cela ce n&rsquo;est pas tr\u00e8s parlant !<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_1b6aa8_sans-titre-5.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_1b6aa8_sans-titre-5.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai trouv\u00e9 une image dans mes bouquins qui explique un peu mieux cela:<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_682f5c_sans-titre-3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_682f5c_sans-titre-3.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Les deux creux qui se trouvent au milieu permettent le passage des pointes du corps \u00e0 baleine ! Les tirettes sur les cot\u00e9s correspondent \u00e0 l&#8217;emplacement des poches.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pour ma part je me suis inspir\u00e9es du patron de Janet Arnold<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_22fa22_sans-titre-6.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_22fa22_sans-titre-6.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Une jupe constitu\u00e9 de 5 pans de tissus. Mais sur le patron il y en a 7 me direz vous ! Oui parce que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de supprimer les poches et donc par la m\u00eame occasion une couture sur le cot\u00e9 au profit d&rsquo;un seul grand pan cot\u00e9. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_7b763c_sans-titre-7.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_7b763c_sans-titre-7.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>je n&rsquo;ai pas utilis\u00e9 de patron: voici comment j&rsquo;ai proc\u00e9d\u00e9! j&rsquo;ai pris la hauteur cot\u00e9 de ma cage pour avoir la mesure la plus grande. Ici ce fut 115 cm. Puis j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9coup\u00e9 mes deux grands pans cot\u00e9 en 115cmx145. J&rsquo;ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 mes plis directement sur le mannequin.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_0b24f8_img-2845.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_0b24f8_img-2845.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_bbd5f1_img-2841.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_bbd5f1_img-2841.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Puis j&rsquo;ai pris mes mesures face et dos (traits rouge) pour cr\u00e9er mes pi\u00e8ces manquantes. Devant c&rsquo;\u00e9tait sur plis (sans marge couture) donc j&rsquo;avais 25cmx48cm. Ce qui donne 12,5x24cm . Pour le dos c&rsquo;\u00e9tait deux pi\u00e8ces avec couture donc 22cmx48 cm ce qui donne 12,5&#215;25,5 (j&rsquo;ai ajout\u00e9 les marges coutures).<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_0b0cdb_ss.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_0b0cdb_ss.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_a26c8f_dos.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_a26c8f_dos.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Facile non? Reste plus qu&rsquo;a d\u00e9monter, repasser et remonter,ajuster les plis, b\u00e2tir coudre, ouvrir les coutures, surjeter et enfin monter la ceinture ^^. C&rsquo;est partis donc pour tout cela .<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>NB: c&rsquo;est a ce moment la que je me suis sentie tr\u00e8s insatisfaite du volume de ma cage : je ne suis pas fan de la forme des robes \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise , ce qui rend pour moi tr\u00e8s difficile de juger du rendu. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Je trouvais ma cage trop ronde (pas assez plate) et bizarrement trop \u00e9vas\u00e9e sur le bas. Ce qui est paradoxal c&rsquo;est que le rendu des gravures de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque et sensiblement diff\u00e9rent de celui que l&rsquo;on propose dans les mus\u00e9e. Sur les gravures les robes sont tr\u00e8s amples et s&rsquo;\u00e9vasent beaucoup, \u00e0 contrario les robes dans les mus\u00e9es restent d&rsquo;amplitude mod\u00e9r\u00e9es. Pas facile donc de trouver le bon compromis. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Panier large et long :<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_ce0c7e_stays-and-hoops.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_ce0c7e_stays-and-hoops.jpg\" alt=\"Met panier et robe 1750\/1770\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_c4aca3_robe-yellow.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_c4aca3_robe-yellow.jpg\" alt=\"Met panier et robe 1750\/1770\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_54a3db_ci30.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_54a3db_ci30.jpg\" alt=\"Met panier et robe 1750\/1770\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"ob-desc\">Met panier et robe 1750\/1770<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>paniers cot\u00e9s ou petite cage? <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_299151_2b74ecacc9ab10e95dc5b8a321c4d6b3.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_299151_2b74ecacc9ab10e95dc5b8a321c4d6b3.jpg\" alt=\"robe 1860\/70 Met\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_772fff_ci1996-374a-c-1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_772fff_ci1996-374a-c-1.jpg\" alt=\"robe 1860\/70 Met\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_bd70b8_176001.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_bd70b8_176001.jpg\" alt=\"robe 1860\/70 Met\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p class=\"ob-desc\">robe 1860\/70 Met<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>Les largeurs de paniers ont chang\u00e9 en m\u00eame temps que l&rsquo;\u00e9volution de la robe au fils des ann\u00e9es et aussi de la cat\u00e9gorie sociale auquel on appartenait. Et puis la corpulence de la personne qui la porte doit elle aussi changer je pense sa taille car il faut compter sur la largeur des hanches et celle du panier. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Je suis rest\u00e9 de long moment \u00e0 m\u00e9diter sur ce volume.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai donc choisi d&rsquo;enlever un rang de baleine sur ma cage pour obtenir ceci : une forme plus plate, moins bomb\u00e9e et plus droite pour le tomb\u00e9 de la jupe. Mais j&rsquo;avoue: je le trouvais encore pas assez relev\u00e9e, pas assez cranter au niveau de la taille. J&rsquo;en ai d\u00e9duis que ma cage n&rsquo;avait pas la bonne forme. Bien que ce soit le patron original de Norah waugh. J&rsquo;avais eu le m\u00eame probl\u00e8me la premi\u00e8re fois et ce n&rsquo;est visiblement pas un probl\u00e8me de montage. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Je pense qu&rsquo;au final j&rsquo;aurais du opter pour un panier plus court, plus plat avec des espace cerceaux plus serr\u00e9. <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_fa7951_img-2855.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_fa7951_img-2855.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_079d4c_img-3111.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_079d4c_img-3111.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-text\">\n<div class=\"ob-text\">\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai essay\u00e9 de me contenter de celui ci, mais franchement quand quelque chose me g\u00e8ne c&rsquo;est impossible de faire sortir cela de mon esprit, je fais une fixation dessus et cela me ralentie ensuite pour l&rsquo;avancement de mon projet.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Je me suis lev\u00e9e donc un matin avec la conviction que j&rsquo;allais corriger ce probl\u00e8me.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>j&rsquo;ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 donc des tendeurs en acier avec des baleines qui remonte le panier \u00e0 partir de la taille. Cela le redresse dans son ensemble et change radicalement le tomb\u00e9 de la jupe. C&rsquo;est s\u00fbre ce n&rsquo;est pas encore parfait mais je trouve que c&rsquo;est plut\u00f4t pas si mal. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Quand \u00e0 ma th\u00e9orie du panier plus plat, je pense en r\u00e9aliser un plus tard !<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-section ob-section-images ob-default\">\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_594569_tt.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_594569_tt.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"ob-row-1-col\"><a class=\"ob-link-img\" href=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_07d456_tttb.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ob-cell ob-img ob-media\" src=\"http:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/08\/ob_07d456_tttb.jpg\" alt=\"Projet: robe \u00e0 la fran\u00e7aise: r\u00e9alisation du jupon\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alors pour jupon plusieurs options s&rsquo;offrent \u00e0 nous! vous pouvez d\u00e9j\u00e0 ne retrouver deux sur mon blog : La jupe : et Tutorial chemise \u00e0 la reine partie5:r\u00e9aliser un jupon XVIIIeme Tutorial chemise \u00e0 la reine partie6:r\u00e9aliser un jupon(jupe) XVIIIeme (2eme) sur mon patron il est propos\u00e9 une variante de la deuxi\u00e8me solution: un grand [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[17,8,13],"tags":[32,33,56],"class_list":["post-51","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-costumes-historiques","category-les-tutos","category-making-off","tag-32","tag-paniers","tag-techniques"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=51"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1404,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/51\/revisions\/1404"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=51"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=51"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/costumes-urbains.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=51"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}